Friday, February 12, 2010

Yeah, but just how sick, and how serious an operation?

Miguel Ángel Cativiela: «La Legión está como un enfermo al que le acaban de operar»
The Legion is like a sick person who has just had an operation

RELIGION EN LIBERTAD
CAMINEO.INFO.-Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:48:00

El secretario territorial de la Legión de Cristo en España, Miguel Ángel Cativiela, LC, ha descrito la actual situación de la congregación religiosa como la de un enfermo que acaba de ser operado. La crisis que vive la institución desde que se hicieran públicos los excesos de su fundador, Marcial Maciel, ha sido, reconoce, «un "palo" bastante grande».

The territorial secretary of the Legion of Christ in Spain, Miguel Angel Cativiela, LC, described the current situation of the religious congregation as that of a sick person who just had an operation. The crisis that the institution is living since the excesses of its founder, Marcial Maciel, were made public, have been, he admitted, "quite a great blow".

Es la primera vez que alguien de peso dentro de la estructura directiva de la congregación de los Legionarios de Cristo en España realiza un diagnóstico de la complicada situación por la que atraviesa, a excepción de la carta hecha pública por su director general, Jesús María Delgado en septiembre de 2009.

It is the first time that anyone of any weight within the command structure of the congregation of the Legion of Christ in Spain has made a diagnosis of the complicated situation which it is going through, with the exception of a letter made public by the director general [sic], Jesus Maria Delgado in September, 2009.

El padre Miguel Ángel Cativiela, LC, que desde hace seis años trabaja como secretario territorial de la Legión de Cristo en España, ha asegurado en el último boletín bimensual que edita la propia congregación que «estamos muy bien», aunque matiza. Porque es evidente que la respuesta sorprende de primeras, habida cuenta la complicada situación actual de la congregación tras descubrirse el escándalo de la doble vida de su fundador, el padre Marcial Maciel, y la visita Apostólica que se está llevando a cabo desde hace meses.

Fr. Miguel Angel Cativiela, LC, who has been working as territorial secretary of the Legion of Christ in Spain for six years, assured in the latest bimonthly bulletin edited by the congregation itself, that "we are very well," but he clarifies. Because it is evident that the response is surprising at first, given the complicated situation that the congregation finds itself in after uncovering the scandal of the double life of the founder, Fr. Marcial Maciel, and the Apostolic visit that has been taking place now for several months.

Todo lo que cura escuece
Everything that heals stings

El matiz de ese bienestar del que habla el padre Cativiela es claro: «Cuando a un enfermo que le acaban de operar le preguntan "¿qué tal estás?" y te dice "bien", se supone que está bien dentro de que es una persona a la que la acaban de operar». Vamos, que hay dolor y que no está curado del todo, se entiende; y que todo lo que cura escuece y molesta.

The nuance of this well-being of which Fr. Cativiela speaks is clear: "When a sick person who has just been operated on is asked, 'how do you feel?', and he says 'good', one can assume that he is well within the limits of a person who has just had an operation". That there is pain and that the healing is not complete is understood; and that everything that heals stings and is painful.

Porque el recién operado «no puede saltar por ahí, correr y hacer vida normal y nosotros, en una situación delicada por los hechos que hemos ido conociendo, pues estamos bien, dentro de que sí, es un "palo" bastante grande».

Because a person recently operated "cannot jump around, run, and live a normal life, and we, in a delicate situation given the facts which we have come to know, we are well, within the limits that yes, it is a very great 'blow'"

Mirando al futuro
Looking to the future

Una vez hecho el diagnóstico, el secretario territorial de los Legionarios de Cristo en España, entiende que «la mayoría lo ha asumido y que lo que está haciendo es mirar hacia delante», aunque reconoce que «no estamos reaccionando todos de la misma manera». Y remacha: «Nos lo han dicho muchos eclesiásticos, todavía nos queda mucho bien por hacer».

Once he made the diagnosis, the territorial secretary of the Legionaries of Christ in Spain, understands that the "majority have absorbed it and what they are doing is looking forward", even though he recognizes that "we are not all reacting in the same way". And he reiterates: "Many churchmen have told us, we still have much good that we must do."

El padre Miguel Ángel Cativiela, en consonancia con la actitud general de espera y confianza en ver «qué quiere el Santo Padre de nosotros», asegura que «estamos en las manos de Cristo, a través de su Vicario» y se muestra confiado: «Las disposiciones para cumplir fielmente lo que el Santo Padre nos diga son muy buenas, por lo que yo puedo ver».

Fr. Miguel Angel Cativiela, in agreement with the general attitude of awaiting with confidence "what the Holy Father wants of us," assures everyone that "we are in Christ's hands, through his Vicar" and is confident: "There are very good dispositions to comply faithfully with what the Holy Father will tell us, as far as I can see".

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1. Legionaries are notorious for using inept analogies to make themselves look good and to divert further inspection. This is not a case of a sick person after an operation. The operation has not taken place yet. The Vatican has not pronounced. Medicine has not yet been prescribed.

2. "Good dispositions to comply faithfully with what the Holy Father will tell us"? Well, the last time, when the Holy Father dissolved the private vows, the Legion obeyed in letter only, continuing to enforce the spirit. So what evidence is there that this time will be any different?

3. There is no consideration made about the cause of the malady. And how it effected the whole organism.... Damn, am I the only one who thinks that these people are delusional?

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

No, believe me, you are not the only one. Delusional is putting it lightly.

Anonymous said...

WHAT HAPPENED TO CASSANDRA JONES?

CASSANDRA, PLEASE COME BACK!

Anonymous said...

Well at least we have gone from being serene, healthy, 'no pasa nada' to being in recovery; the next step will be a serious life-saving operation(dissolution), after that a newer and better Legion (death of the institute- transfer of all LCs to dioceses).

Anonymous said...

Masters of EVASION...from the biggest issue of their own malformation!

Anonymous said...

When you live inside a bubble, everything is wonderful until the bubble bursts.... Then all havoc breaks out. It looks like for many, the myth of the bubble lives on....

Anonymous said...

"The territorial secretary of the Legion of Christ in Spain, Miguel Angel Cativiela, LC, described the current situation of the religious congregation as that of a sick person who just had an operation."

The analogy makes some sense if the operation was a frontal lobotomy.

Anonymous said...

Y los perros ladran y ladran...

Anonymous said...

Oh they are sick alright. In fact from what has come out perhaps they are on their deathbed!

Anonymous said...

"When a sick person who has just been operated on is asked, 'how do you feel?', and he says 'good', one can assume that he is well within the limits of a person who has just had an operation"

I wonder how many LCs are saying "I feel good"?

Why not say exactly what your pain is and how it hurts? That way you get better treatment and help.

Aaron said...

A spanish commenter on the newspaper website that published this interview says that there is a group of 150 LC priests - mostly USA/Spanish - who want to seperated and form a new group.

I wonder how on earth they would be able to communicate to each other these ideas - did Maciel not design the Legion exactly to AVOID splinter groups being made? I mean with all the spying that we did, and reporting, who on earth could you trust?

Not even the confessional was sacrosanct...

Anonymous said...

I think that number of 100 to 150 are those who are explicit about reform/and if needed departure from the Institute. They are looking for the AV to shake things up enough to give them the framework of building a better future be it with or without the LC. I do not believe from what I have read, they are coalescing on their own, meeting etc, to solicit a new foundation from the Holy See. This at any rate is what I have gathered from Trastevere.

Anonymous said...

I know that last year this group was seeking donors to help make this happen.