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A Roman Vacation paid for by your donations to the Legion.
The never ending saga of the Legion of Christ and their disgraced founder, Marcial Maciel. Can it get any weirder? This blog is for your comments. If you wish to send a suggestion for a new posting, please email landoncody6@gmail.com.
So what do you think of the communique?
What are you doing while awaiting the results of the visitation?
What do you WANT to happen with the visitation of the Legion of Christ?
Two of Maciel's Children
A Roman Vacation paid for by your donations to the Legion.
The First Apostolic Visitation of the Legion of Christ. 1956-1958.
Read Part I here with links to Parts II-V
We called it the "Great War" or the "Great Blessing" when we were in. What shall we call it now?
We called it the "Great War" or the "Great Blessing" when we were in. What shall we call it now?
Interesting Blogs, Boards, and Websites about the Legion of Christ and the Regnum Christi
- American Papist
- And Sometimes Tea
- Asociación de Víctimas de la LC y del RC
- Bonum Verum Pulchrum
- Cassandra Jones
- Catholic Light: Pete Vere
- Chiesa-Espresso On Line (English)
- Conlajusticia
- Desmontando a Marcial Maciel
- Devinrose
- El Fraude de Hombre Nuevo (The Fraud of Hombre Nuevo)
- El Trastevere (J. Martínez de Velazco)
- Fr. Damien Karras
- Fratres in Unum: Português
- How to get a loved one out of the Legion of Christ or Regnum Christi
- InsideCatholic
- Journey of a Young Priest
- LC RC Healing
- Life After RC
- Marita's Creative Writing
- May Contain Gnats
- MommyWrites
- Our Father Maciel, Who Art in Bed
- Pastor Bonus
- Prévention à l'égard de la Légion du Christ et du Regnum Christi (French. Not related to exlcblog.com)
- RC is not my life
- ReGAIN Network
- The Dawn Patrol
- Understanding the Legion of Christ
- Vows of Silence: The Film
- xlcrc.com
Books about the Legion of Christ
- El circulo del poder y el espiral del silencio
- El Legionario
- En el nombre del padre
- Legionarios De Cristo En Chile: Dios Dinero Y Poder
- Los Legionarios de Cristo: el nuevo ejercito del Papa
- Marcial Maciel. Los legionarios de Cristo: testimonios y documentos inéditos
- Our Father Maciel, Who Art in Bed
- Vows of Silence (Book and Documentary)
The Legion of Christ is a Congregation of Priests and Seminarians in the Catholic Church. Through controversy, they "soldier" on (so far), and I, an ex member, bring themes to this blog for varied opinions and comments from all.
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11 comments:
This is Archbishop Thomas Collins of Toronto, April, 2009. The TV news channel 8 discussion also accessible here was in 2002.
He wins the "Captain Obvious Award" for yes, I am concerned about the structure too. It was designed by a sociopath and furthered by the current leaders who were interested in money and power too so they were corrupted to cover up the sins. Say bye bye.
I have a question. I joined RC, I left in late February 2009, and I am better for it.
When will I stop being crazy over this whole stupid mess?
When will I not wake up at night and fret about it?
Being a bit "crazy" about this mess is normal... if it springs from your concern for the Church's integrity and purity... and your concern for all who have been/ are being harmed. Please pray for Benedict XVI, keep your mind and heart focused on Jesus, and keep The Faith! The Legion has never been THE CHURCH. It has been allowed to exist for a small part of Church history WITHIN The Church.
Wether you like it or not, the Legion IS part of the Church, and will continue to be as long as the Pope wants it that way. Of course there are a lot of things to change, but never the less we must accept that IT IS IN THE CHURCH, wether you like it or not. So lets pary for those inside, may God help them to go through this horrible time, and continue to a great work!... because YES there's a lot of good people doing a lot of good things inside.
Or we could pray that this evil get rooted out of our Church once and for all.
Bad organizations can often perform all sorts of good works---just look at various mafia-run outfits that give all sorts of money to good causes. Good works do not justify evil means. Never has, never will. Simple as that.
The Maciel Methodology is evil and has wreaked enough havoc on our Church already. My prayer will always be that all evil is weeded out of our Mother Church. The hierarchy's failure to root out such evil is not reason for people to just accept it. I'd hate to have to give THAT as an excuse at the Pearly Gates "St. Peter, yes I knew this was an evil organization, but the Church allowed it, so I shut up and moved on!"
Maciel passed the First Visitation with flying colors. That doesn't mean he was good. Or that his works were good. It means the Church made a horrible mistake, one that allowed a predator to go on abusing people for another 50 years.
My prayers will be that the Church never makes such a mistake again.
To anonymous: as a start, count on my prayers. Next, find a counselor who can help you sort this out. I would suggest finding someone who is not very aware of the Legion/RC to give an unbiased viewpoint. I know many who have gone through/are going through similar things. The breaking of trust is a hard thing to overcome.
"Wether [sic] you like it or not, he Legion IS part of the Church, and will continue to be as long as the Pope wants it that way."...
Let's be careful here. The last time the POPE said something positive about the LC/RC it was presumably before knowing the full details about the founder. Prudent people stay on the sidelines and keep OUT until the Church can digest the new information. I for one, find it UNCONSCIONABLE that the LC/RC can continue to recruit in this environment.
"The work that they've done is good."
I disagree. I don't think they did anything at all, other than attend a lot of conferences and do a lot of busywork. The LC/RC never fed the hungry, clothed the naked, housed the homeless, etc. They stole a bunch of schools and turned them into institutes of brain-washing. They force-fed countless people their twisted legion theology and told us if we didn't swallow it we were evil and going to hell.
So, the work that they've done is most certainly NOT good.
Ah, but anonymous, it doesn't matter if the work is actually good or not! What matters is if the work LOOKS good..........and if there is one thing the Legion is good at (charism?), it's spin and deceit. So there you go----as long as they can make the schools and apostolates look they are good things, that's all that is required.
Kind of like Maciel--it didn't matter that he was forcing little boys to masturbate him, impregnating women, embezzling money, and shooting up demerol. What matters is that he was able to make it all LOOK so good. And for that, the Legion continues to express their gratitude even to this day.
Oh yes, it's all about the spin. Who cares if they never fed the hungry, clothed the naked, housed the homeless, or visited those in prison (in fact, I think Maciel was probably pretty good at unclothing those who were dressed, and he kept his impoverished 3gf women hungry while he ate caviar. Housing the homeless? He was too busy staying in his luxury hotels. As for prison, well, the reality of prison probably hit a little too close to him for him to manage to visit any of his fellow criminals).
As long as everything looked holy and pious on the outside, the rot on the inside was allowed to grow unhindered.
Truth does not matter. Appearances do.
"Next, find a counselor who can help you sort this out. I would suggest finding someone who is not very aware of the Legion/RC to give an unbiased viewpoint."
If I am reading this correctly, this post was directed by an LC/RC supporter to those of us who may be angry and disillusioned by the LC/RC deceit/fraud. (Because, of course, any emotions that destroy that world-famous serenity are due to the mental/spiritual "weakness" of the person experiencing them). Can I just say that the advice to find somebody not very aware of the LC/RC debacle for counseling literally made me laugh out loud?
That's like sending somebody trying to recover from Scientology to a counselor who has not a clue what Scientology is. Oh yeah, that's going to result in some really helpful counseling. ROFL!
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